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TOWER HOLES AND BOLTS

PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 2:40 pm
by ilmung
I am aware that the holes (underside ) where the big bolts take the subframe can be worn out due to movement of the subframe .
How can I repair this in the best way ?

The big bolts which are coming from my Midas MKII shows a adaption ( they have put a ring +- 10 mm over the original bolt ) ,is that a normal solution by the MKII and the reason ?

Re: TOWER HOLES AND BOLTS

PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 3:21 pm
by Stuart
yes spacer is required because of the extra thickness of the grp, the grp doesn't look worn to me.

Re: TOWER HOLES AND BOLTS

PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 4:27 pm
by ilmung
Concerning spacer : ok I understand , tahnks !
Concerning the holes : do you think that the holes are not worn .....I would say that the holes aren't 100% cilindrical but maybe that's normal or maybe the degree of worn is into the limits ?
But in case I repair this , how would you repair such a problem ?
What hole diameter would be correct to assure a tight connection ?

Re: TOWER HOLES AND BOLTS

PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 4:32 pm
by Stuart
I find the wear is on the horizontal surfaces where the rubber bush abrades/rubs the gelcoat away, more so on the top surface.

Re: TOWER HOLES AND BOLTS

PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 4:38 pm
by ilmung
Yes that's right , the worn is situated +- 3 to 4 mm max. deep in the hole , the rest is 100% cilindrical.
Can I do a grp repair or use a special product to correct the hole ? ?

Re: TOWER HOLES AND BOLTS

PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2018 11:19 am
by ilmung
I read some topics concerning the fixation front subframe /body and I think there's a lot of different opinions , regardless solid or not or a combination .
But there's a point where I do not find a correct answer /explication how to do it ?
My question is now : if your are installing a subframe with rubbers ( not solid ) with 2 big tower bolts .
The big bolts have a cilindrical body with a threaded end and a diameter smaller than the cilindrical body .
Some people say you have to turn the big bolt so that the cilindrical part touch the top of the subframe and than turn with a certain torque .
Other people say you just turn the bolts till you have the right torque , regardless if the cilindrical part touch the top of the subframe or not ?????
I appreciate your reactions

Re: TOWER HOLES AND BOLTS

PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 8:12 pm
by ilmung
This afternoon I made some idea's to make a better connection frontsubframe to body .
Hope you make your remarks , because that's the way to make things better !
The tower bolts are threaded at both sides , so you can make the connection to subframe with the right torque , same for the above threaded tower bolt .
The choice of the rubber is important but there are a lot of possibilities .
Note that the thickness of the body shell around the tower holes is more than 10 mm !
I do not believe in a solid connection certainly not for a grp body , i think there should be some flexibility to avoid worn effects etc.....
Maybe I am totally wrong ...????

Re: TOWER HOLES AND BOLTS

PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 9:41 pm
by ilmung
I have taken another method to rectify the used towerholes ,notwithstanding i think that my idea to make rubber sleeves around the towerbolts should be a better solution.
This morning I have put some Loctite 3478 which is a epoxy adhesive metal ( expensive :o )which become very hard, on the used places of the towerholes.
Once the resine is complety hard , I bring the holes to the right diameter again ,with a metal reamer .