MK4 cortez / excelsior weight / corner weight front rear

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MK4 cortez / excelsior weight / corner weight front rear

Postby Jin » Thu Jan 14, 2016 2:26 pm

hi all
does anyone have an idea (rough or precise) as to what the corner weights of a mk4 are?

Doing spring calcs etc as the mo but ive no idea what is what, I’ve had a vague guess at 450lb fronts and 300 rear (corner weights not spring rates)

can anyone throw anything into the pot even if its mk3?

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Re: MK4 cortez / excelsior weight / corner weight front rear

Postby streetsy » Thu Jan 14, 2016 5:55 pm

Alistair may be your best bet, rear coilovers on my mk3 cabriolet are rated 100lb, don't know the corner weights though
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Re: MK4 cortez / excelsior weight / corner weight front rear

Postby benofbrum » Sat Jan 16, 2016 2:52 pm

I have just found a letter from Alistair to John Crowson sent when John was preparing my Excelsior for its SVA which includes these figures:
Design Weight axle 1 600kg
Design Weight axle 2 500kg
Total Weight 1060kg
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Re: MK4 cortez / excelsior weight / corner weight front rear

Postby Jin » Sat Jan 16, 2016 5:06 pm

Fantastic cheers.
Though much heavier than I thought.
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Re: MK4 cortez / excelsior weight / corner weight front rear

Postby Stuart » Sat Jan 16, 2016 7:37 pm

Jin wrote:Fantastic cheers.
Though much heavier than I thought.


Brian weighed his mk4 and it was around 840 kgs if I remember correctly.
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Re: MK4 cortez / excelsior weight / corner weight front rear

Postby Geoff Butcher » Sat Jan 16, 2016 9:02 pm

That seems very heavy! I weighed my Ginetta G21 years ago and it was 830kg, that's with a steel chassis, Holbay Rapier engine and box and a beam axle... :o
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Re: MK4 cortez / excelsior weight / corner weight front rear

Postby benofbrum » Sun Jan 17, 2016 12:36 am

I think the figures I quoted are the maximum design weights, i.e. fuelled up and loaded with people and luggage. According to the Metro workshop manual, a 3 door weighs between 815 and 845kg
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Re: MK4 cortez / excelsior weight / corner weight front rear

Postby Jin » Sun Jan 17, 2016 8:38 am

Thanks everyone.
I'm leaving much of what I need to trial and error, I had thought the mk4 was under 700kg though?
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Re: MK4 cortez / excelsior weight / corner weight front rear

Postby Stuart » Sun Jan 17, 2016 1:34 pm

Jin wrote:Thanks everyone.
I'm leaving much of what I need to trial and error, I had thought the mk4 was under 700kg though?


I can see why you might think that. Autocar weighed their road test MK 3 at around 806 kgs. MK 2 at 660 kgs.

I bet yours is north of 850 kgs. of course you know the only way to know for certain is to weigh it.
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Re: MK4 cortez / excelsior weight / corner weight front rear

Postby Jin » Sun Jan 17, 2016 3:19 pm

This is true, and there is a weigh bridge not far from where I work, seems obvious really :)
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