Mk 1 Project Zippy. Looking Like a Car.

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Postby Hans Efde » Sat Jun 23, 2012 4:49 pm

How do you clean your metal components? Do you have a chemical for that? Or is it the trusty wirebrush?
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Re: Mk 1 Project Zippy (Picture Heavy!)

Postby MrBounce » Sat Jun 23, 2012 5:24 pm

Trusty wire brush, but mounted in an angle grinder Hans 8-)
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Re: Mk 1 Project Zippy (Picture Heavy!)

Postby Hans Efde » Sat Jun 23, 2012 10:54 pm

Thanks, looks amazing. I should use mine more often.
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Re: Mk 1 Project Zippy (Picture Heavy!)

Postby MrBounce » Sun Jun 24, 2012 9:28 pm

This morning saw me attack the discs that came off the car. The discs themselves are Metro Turbo vented items which I doubt have ever been used on the road. However, several years of standing have left them looking rather rusty. I might have a use for the drive flanges however, so I needed to get them off. I left them soaking in penetrating oil overnight, then attacked them using a block of wood and a mallet. One disc was fine, parting company with the flange after 3 hits. The other however, was more stubborn than a Tory MP on Question Time. After a fair few minutes of clouting, it did eventually come off.

I then turned my attention to the evil paint on the suspension arms. It HAD to go. Luckily I have a tool for this and spent a busy and extremely loud morning removing all the paint. I was left with a small pile of paint dust and some shinier looking components, which I will repaint in due course.

Flanges finally off and on the bench.

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That paint has GOT to go...

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The right tool for the job.

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Paint dust (there's more on the floor and workbench)

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The stripped arms. Much improved!

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Postby lankyjames » Mon Jun 25, 2012 11:14 am

Will they be repainted?
My brothers currently rebuilding his mini and the sub frames have had everything but the discs powder coated...one day when I have another car I hope I can manage the same level of rebuild!

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Re: Mk 1 Project Zippy (Picture Heavy!)

Postby MrBounce » Thu Jun 28, 2012 11:09 pm

Just a quick update. Went to see my good friend this evening and in between helping him chuck an engine in his Riley Elf project, I nicked his cone compressor to get my cones out. It was all straightforward and easy. And the top arm I thought was seized has freed itself off a bit too. I haven't removed the doughnuts or top arms yet - will do that on the bench when there's a bit more time.

One side done...

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...and the other.

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Re: Mk 1 Project Zippy (Picture Heavy!)

Postby MrBounce » Sun Jul 01, 2012 7:50 pm

Another quick update - managed to get a bit of time this afternoon so I set about removing the top arms and doughnuts. The top arms were a cinch; just undo the bolts on the plate, then the big nuts on the shaft and push it out. Both the shafts looked in pretty good nick, weren't seized and had plenty of grease on them. The only things that will need replacing are the dust covers at the ends. I am hoping I can get these separately without having to buy a full rebuild kit. I took out the nylon cups where the knuckles sit as they're being replaced anyway. They gave up without a fight as they looked brand new and were covered in copperslip.

The doughnuts were somewhat different. Although easy to remove, they look very well used with cracks in the rubber and badly painted flaking hammerite on the metal bits. This is what I don't get about this car: there's some stuff that's in fantastic condition yet other parts are rubbish: why replace the top arms and not the doughnuts if you know they're not up to scratch? Never mind - I'll do both...

To make me feel a bit better I put the pedalbox back together with plenty of copperslip on the shaft. It all went together nice and easily (as it should!). The pics don't do it justice.

I didn't take a picture but I managed to scrape of some of the surface rust on the front (very seized and dead) shocks. It looks like says "Midas" on them. If that's so they're likely to be 31 years old. I am definitely not using them! :o

Nearside arm out...

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...and Offside arm.

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Nylon knuckle cups - out without an issue.

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Rather sorry looking doughnuts.

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Rebuilt pedalbox - better-looking in the flesh!

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Re: Mk 1 Project Zippy (Picture Heavy!)

Postby MrBounce » Sat Jul 14, 2012 4:20 pm

Having returned from a week in the Lake District (too much food, alcohol and walks - my legs hurt like hell after the first 2 days!) it was time to set about removing what was left on the shell. I started off with the damper brackets. 4 nuts to undo each side; how difficult could it be? Driver's side was a piece of cake although a bit of a struggle due to the limited access and excess rust (as usual). Turns out the bottom 2 nuts are on captive bolts. These are in the main crossmember and are inaccesible other than through the hole where the subframe tower bolts go. Which is virtually impossible without a very weird tool which I don't have. The passenger side however, because I started it on Friday 13th, was an absolute backside of a job. 3 of the nuts came off easily, but the fourth broke its captive mounting so the whole bolt just spun. Because it is in such a stupid place there was no way I could get to it. Due to the rust I would need to replace said bolt anyway, so out came my old buddy Dremel and I cut the nut & bolt off. The build manual states that it's a special plate with captive nuts that needs to be pushed in with a screwdriver. I'll have to get creative and build a couple of new ones. The damper brackets themselves are a bit strange - they're like a Mini damper bracket but with an extra bit welded on and with extra holes. And of course they are ridiculously rusty... Wire brush time methinks...

Next up were the brackets which the front subframe mounts bolt to. These were surprisingly simple and in fairly good nick, so just a spanner and ratchet needed here. They are slightly different though - wonder if these were made up by someone who got the dimensions wrong and one had to be changed?

For the sake of undoing six bolts the steering column and rack had to go. The column needed a bit of persuasion to part company with the rack (my rubber mallet helped!) but was soon off. It doesn't appear to be in bad nick, and the splines look in good condition. The rack was a bit of a surprise though. It wasn't as healthy as I had initially thought. It was ridiculously stiff, the track rod ends were shot to bits and the gaiters were damaged and perished. Time for a new one then. At least I've got a couple of brand-new old stock track rod ends on the shelf that came with the car. The rack still has that poxy gold Hammerite on it...

Walking around the car I removed the passenger side mirror blank. This was held on by a single rusty screw, which had of course seized solid and would not turn. However, I ground a straight slot in the screw with the Dremel, then used a flat balde screwdriver to undo it. It had released itself from the fibreglass due to the heat from the grinding. I also removed the two bits of rubber at the front of the rear wheelarches using the same technique. These are very strange. They appear to be protecting the beam assembly from the road grime and salt kicked up by the wheels and have been constructed of what appears to be an old inner tube. I will see what I can create to replace them.

The throttle pedal was next. It's one of the earlier (i.e Mini Mk 1-3 ) smaller pedals, but mine has a Speedwell extension on it, which I rather like. However, because of where the pedal has been placed, the extension fouls on the wheelarch so you can't get full throttle. I am not sure whether to simply remove the extension or re-mount the pedal (the captive bolts & bracket are a bit badly made) about 5mm closer to the centre of the car. I need to consider my options!

Also, after helping a good friend with his Elf, I found myself the lucky recipient of a modified Maniflow centre-exit back-box. Which may be used in due course...

There's very little left on the shell now bar the doors (which I want to get hanging properly before I take them apart), the brake & fuel lines, the rear wiring loom and about 3 bolts/studs. Almost everything is off!!

First bracket off

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Nearside bracket viewed from under the wheelarch, with stubborn nut and broken captive bolt.

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And out. A couple of minor grazes from the Dremel. Time for de-rusting.

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Subframe front brackets & spreader plates. These will be repainted. Note they're different...

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Column out - seems in good nick - I will re-do the bushes though!

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Rack not so good...

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... here's why #1...

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... and here's why #2

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Mirror blank off. It's ugly under there!!

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Odd rubber things from the back of the car

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New old stock track rod ends. Yay!

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Throttle pedal. Decisions, decisions...

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Modified Maniflow backbox - I may well use this!

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Re: Mk 1 Project Zippy (Picture Heavy!)

Postby MrBounce » Sun Jul 22, 2012 9:09 pm

Having bashed into the subframe for the umpteenth time this week whilst in the garage, I thought it was about time to clean it up. As it was a nice day (what's one of those??!!) I chucked it outside on the workbench and set about it with the angle grinder. After a couple of minutes it went "pop" and proceeded to spit bits of plastic all over the place. I opened it up and more bits fell out. It didn't work any more. And it was (typically) 13 months old and I had no receipt, having thrown it out the previous month... I bought a new big yellow one (as much as funds would allow anyway)from the conveniently newly-opened local Machine Mart and it breezed through the rest of the stripping with no bother at all. I didn't take all the old paint off (no point really), just the stuff with rust near it and the nasty flaky stuff.

I have given one side of the subframe a good coat of Hammerite and will flip it over and do the other side next.

I also managed to get the handbrake cable assembly apart (had to resort to Dremel-ing off the nut which had rusted solid). This will be de-rusted, painted and reconditioned with new stainless bolts etc.

Subframe before stripping

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Angle Grinder went pop...

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.. to be replaced by a big heavy duty yellow one

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Subframe stripped...

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...and painted

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Handbrake assembly finally apart. Very rusty.

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Re: Mk 1 Project Zippy (Picture Heavy!)

Postby MrBounce » Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:27 pm

It was time to try to get the Midas out of the garage. Normally this would have meant getting it back on its wheels, but I had a secret weapon called Shaun. He had liberated an old trolley cage from his work (due to be scrapped) and cut the handles off. This gave us a lovely flat platform and a very sturdy set of wheels. The question was how to get the bodyshell on to it. Given that the pair of us would give a few rugby forwards a good test, it really was no problem at all. One at each end and lift. It really was that light.

We lined up the trolley, lifted up the rear end and slid it under, then removed all the axle stands. We then pushed it out into the evening sunlight and lined it up so it sat on the trolley better. I swept out the garage and then we pushed it back in. Brilliant!

The Midas trolley, as modelled by Fred, next door's large Tabby.

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Lining it up (Shaun posing)

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Out on the drive, having been lowered into place properly.

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And back in the garage. If I need it moved I just push it out of the way!

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