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Making a bias box from a Metro pedal box..

Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 7:08 pm
by Rich
By popular request....

Well almost, the recent failure of my master cylinder got me thinking about a more sustainable alternative. I'd seen the KAD version on Davids cars and looked at making something similar until I started to get the feeling that I was making life hard for myself when the standard pedal box probably had the potential to be converted without needing to move the battery.

As my car is a daily driver I put out an appeal for a pedal box to play with, a standard Metro one has turned up from APBellamy on the Metro Forum that I will use to chop about and potentially wreck in the process with another one kindly donated by Jon on here which has already had the pedals converted for use in a Midas.

So, this is what it's all about.. a standard Metro box with cable clutch.

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First off I removed the clutch pedal so it was one thing less to have flapping about, the bushes are fine so that's one thing less to do.

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Using a pencil in the clevis hole I marked the full travel of the pedal on both sides of the box.

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Prodding around in the footwell of the Midas revealed that there's maybe an inch of travel at the clevis under braking so I used a 51mm hole saw to create a clearance hole on one side.

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... and then the other side

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The pedal stop that incorporates the brake light switch is held on with a couple of spot welds, you can see on the picture that this has already moved so the bracket will be welded on properly when I get the MIG out.

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You can see the problem with the length of the balance bar against the width of the pedal box itself.

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This is the tube that will need to be welded to the pedal for the bias bar. I have looked locally for an end mill to make a really clean job, but in the end I got a 32mm hole saw from Axminster Tools, the advantage of using this is that the saw is centered by using the clevis hole to locate the pilot drill for the saw.

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Now you can see how it all fits together, for the clevis to clear the side of the pedal box the bias tube will have to be welded in offset from the centre line of the pedal. In my eyes this is less than ideal as the load could be moved away from the main load bearing structure. I'll be welding in a web to reinforce the unsupported section.

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I haven't decided which way around I'm going to mount the longer end, this is the end the dash mounted adjuster fits to so I need to have a rummage around in the foot well to see which side will be best for running the cable.

Ok, back in a couple of days as I've got a short notice training course tomorrow.

Re: Making a bias box from a Metro pedal box..

Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 8:41 pm
by Alan D.
Right, off out to fulfil my Valentines duties..


Lucky Man!!!

Re: Making a bias box from a Metro pedal box..

Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 9:02 pm
by Geoff Butcher
Good old APBellamy! I had a master cylinder and reservoir off him!

Re: Making a bias box from a Metro pedal box..

Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 10:07 pm
by Rich
Alan D. wrote:Right, off out to fulfil my Valentines duties..


Lucky Man!!!

What, buy dinner and drink coke?

Ohh, I know what you mean....

Re: Making a bias box from a Metro pedal box..

Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 10:19 pm
by Alan D.
I never considered you would be doing anything else, knowing you to be a perfect gentleman!!

The pedal box looks good as well!

Will we be seeing you at race retro, there are a few of us coming from the frozen north.

Regards Alan

Re: Making a bias box from a Metro pedal box..

Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 10:45 pm
by Rich
Is that the one at Castle Combe Alan?

Re: Making a bias box from a Metro pedal box..

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 9:46 am
by manifold
looks good rich. keep the photos coming!

Re: Making a bias box from a Metro pedal box..

Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 10:52 pm
by Rich
Ok, one course out of the way so I've had a bit more of a play today. The Midas modified box has arrived from Jon so from now on I'll be using the pedals from that in the build.

Bias tube tacked onto pedal.. Obviously the welds you can see to the body of the pedal are from the modification to Midas spec.

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Web added to the other side for support and welded around. The edges where the two pieces join have been chamfered to allow greater penetration of the weld into the joint as my welder only runs up to 135 amps.

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The pedal complete with it's bias tube in situ in the box, you can probably see how little clearance there is for the right side clevis. For those of you viewing in black and white, that's the one on the left side of this picture... ;)

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Re: Making a bias box from a Metro pedal box..

Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 11:26 pm
by manifold
is their any value in cranking the tube over to centralise it (a bit of a faff I know)...and make equal spacing? Just a thought.........

Re: Making a bias box from a Metro pedal box..

Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 11:34 pm
by Rich
manifold wrote:is their any value in cranking the tube over to centralise it (a bit of a faff I know)...and make equal spacing? Just a thought.........

Not now it's been welded.......

Do you mean centralise the tube on the pedal?